Advanced freeride skier
Craig's rating of this liner:
Considering his skiers profile:
"Powder bump runs with numerous face shots, creamy untracked pow turns, and even huge carve turns on empty groomed runs at the beginning of the day are my favorite. I am not a high speed skier."
Weight:82 kg180 lbs
My favourite freeride skis:
1. Blizzard Bonafide
2. Kästle BMX105
3. Liberty Genome
To all my reviews
Intuition Pro Tongue liners are a winner!
I have been using the 3 buckle cabrio design boots for many years, including the early Raichle Flex-On Comps, and 3 generations of the Dalbello KRs with stock liners. I have a low volume foot and ankle, with high arch. I like my boot to fit very tight, with no foot movement (except my toes) inside the boot. Remember, any play or movement inside your boot, is multiplied when it reaches the tip of your ski!
I tried the "wrap" Intuition liner in the shop initially, (which is the only model as a available option with new KRs, my wife loves hers). They felt odd, too upright, decided to stick with a conventional tongue liner. The Pro Tongue liner reviewed here, transforms a great boot, into a superb boot. Here are my recognized differences to the stock liner following 30 plus days of use:
1) Comparable volume to new stock liner, superb replacement liner
2) Much warmer
4) More precise fit
5) Increased comfort, particularly in toe, and ball of foot area
6) Heat molded foam is firmer than stock liner
7) Reduced tongue movement (miss-alignment) during skiing, compared to stock liner
8) Similar liner height, tighter fit around upper cuff, reduction in fore-aft play.
I have a 28.5 shell, and a 28 stock liner. Following Intuitions recommendations, I inserted my foot into the shell without the liner, with my toes just barely touching the front of the boot, and measured the distance behind my heel to the back of the boot. About 7/8 of a inch, which indicated a 28 Intuition liner, which was the correct fit.
Shell and liner modifications
I must acknowledge that I modify my shells (years of trial and error) and stock liner, with a heel lift between shell foot bed and liner (which changes the geometry of my foot and leg in the boot, requiring the other following adjustments), two layers of rubber adhered to the inside back of shell, added thickness to thickest stock forward lean insert, additional arch support, and added rubber on outside of stock liner to create tighter heel pocket. I left the modification of the shell intact, and added similar rubber in ankle-heel area to the intuition liner to prevent any heel movement (adhesive rubber is available at most ski shops). With these modifications, based on my body shape, I am able to be balanced in a neutral to forward position.
If you find that you fall into the back seat, and are unable to drive your shin into the tongue of your boot consistently at the beginning of your turn.......consider modifying or buying a higher end boot. If you like a more upright position in your boot, consider the Intution Dreamliner which is available in three volumes, and also has a conventional tongue (please see my separate review).
Heat molding of liner
Make sure you follow heat mold and general instructions, particularly temp, time recommendations. I heated the entire liner in a oven and then inserted a (similar volume to stock) "Volcano" heat moldable foot bed (purchased separately) into the liner, and then inserted the liner immediately into my shell. Wearing a thin ski sock and the provided Intuition toe spacer I immediately inserted my foot. I lightly buckled the boot, and stood with my toes on a 2x4 for the recommended time. I see no reason this can not be done in your home oven, or with the rice-stocking method. Minor heat molding modifications can be done with a hair dryer, if there are any hot spots.
A smooth sock, and long underwear with no wrinkles is critical, due to the firm and precise fit.
The tongue can be difficult to get seated, particularly when cold. I use a plug-in heater in each boot overnight, which not only dries, but keeps the liner and shell softer for easy foot insertion. I removed the laces on the tongue immediately, due to difficult, near impossible, foot insertion (warm or cold). I would concede there is a break in (acclamation) period. I suppose 5 or so, partial days. > This Pro Tongue liner should work equally well in a variety of boots, including most conventional buckle shells.
Intuition about the Pro Tongue
"The Pro Tongue liner is the stiffest of all our tongue style liners with hard tongue and cuff reinforcements, a traditional style 2mm stroble sole with PU covering, and a thinner, softer toe box which allows more toe room in tight fitting shells. The Pro Tongues come with a removable 7mm foam insert, which make them ideal for custom footbeds.", says Intuition.